14 Responses to “Don’t Say I Didn’t Tell You So…”

1. HollyontheHill Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

   I followed the link and WOWZERS! That is gonna hurt….

2. Rep. Craig Frank Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 7:02 am

   Those who saw this coming have been shouting a long time. Who needs a Crystal Ball…when you’ve got Fiber Optic?!

3. Rep. Craig Frank Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 7:06 am

   I’d really be interested to hear from UTOPIA SUPPORTERS right about now. Read the article…then comment…anyone…anyone…Bueller…Bueller…

4. Jesse Harris Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 10:12 am

   Already took you and the UTA to task.

   http://www.freeutopia.org/2009/05/19/egg-on-your-face-rep-frank-and-the-uta-play-loose-with-the-truth/

5. Ronald D. Hunt Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 11:17 am

   Utopia can’t/won’t use any tax payer dollars until june 2010 as they do not have any bond payments to make until that point in time. Infact as the tax dollars are their for making bond payments I would think it would be illegal to touch those funds until that time as well.

   Also given the event that the city to end up paying taxes towards the Utopia bonds their is revenue from Utopia and it is unlikely the entirety of the bond would come out of tax’s. I can’t stress this point enough with over 8,000 fiber connected customers and growing, available triple play service improving their average revenue per unit, and new wholesale pricing model.

   I will note that am located in Layton, I am in the next footprint to get Utopia service here sometime in the summer. Pretty soon the only way to get access to a Utah base internet provider will be though Utopia as Qwest excludes 3rd party’s from their adsl2+ upgrades and comcast has never allowed 3rd party’s on their network.

   All that said yes I do believe that utopia will eventually call on a portion of the tax money. I am fine with this we as tax payers have given much more then utopia’s bond to Qwest in the form of the Federal Universal Service Fund, and other tax benefits. Utopia is the only way I see for us to get a modern telecommunication’s infrastructure.

6. Rep. Craig Frank Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

   Jesse…I knew I could flush you out.

7. Ronald D. Hunt Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

   I believe all involved can’t wait to see the 2009 utopia SAO filing(in June?). that will hopefully put to rest all this silly speculation.

8. Jesse Harris Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

   Flush me out? So I could call bunk on recycled claims with little basis in reality?

9. Jake Smith Says:
   May 19th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

   I still don’t see the downside to UTOPIA. With the UTOPIA service available, I don’t see why anyone pays for Qwest or Comcast internet services, when for the price, the UTOPIA is near unbeatable. The biggest downside I see to UTOPIA is the clear lack of advertising to let those taxpayers paying for the infrastructure know what services are available to them. I pay $40/month for 40Mbps internet. Comcast was charging me $40 for 7Mbps…

10. u235sentinel Says:
    May 20th, 2009 at 8:55 am

    I noticed our amazing politicians haven’t even suggested possible alternatives to Utopia or to the Duopoly our government has created here in Utah between Concast and Qwest.

    Wireless you say?

    Have you actually tried wireless guys? Let’s not talk about something you don’t understand ok? The latency issues itself will disappoint you in comparison. If you have questions about wireless then I’d be happy to provide education on this topic

    If not Utopia then I’d like to see some positive discussion for a refreshing change here. I challenge Rep Frank to give us his opinion of what we should do and how we can protect our citizens without competition. We have no protection despite all this “talk” about us having laws in place. It’s been over a year since Rep.Frank and I spoke face to face at the State Capital. Since then I’ve met with several other’s in the Salt Lake Valley (one neighbor on my street included) who have had their internet turned off by Concast for using it too much and banned for 12 months.

    Qwest is damn slow but that’s where people are going to since we have no alternative. And now that we’re a socialist country, perhaps we can look at what other’s are doing. They sure as hell are not running more 1800’s copper in the ground but running fiber man!!

    >> Jesse…I knew I could flush you out. <<

    Had to comment about this. I expected better from a public servant. Either we’re going to discuss a serious problems or we’re going to play those games.

    Since we’ve been paying taxes since 1994 under the NII, why don’t we have fiber to the home? We paid for it and President Bill Clinton signed it into law. Hey how about an audit!

    And yes, I’ve written to Obama about the NII. After all, I paid for it too!

11. u235sentinel Says:
    May 20th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    That’s it? We’re done talking about solutions and only want to talk about problem? Is it really that shallow in our State Capital that solutions to the problem are not discussed?

    What are the alternatives dude?

    You brought it up. So go ahead and continue to the part where you’re solutions are entertained. I’m all ears.

12. jasonthe Says:
    May 21st, 2009 at 1:35 am

    Is this a hint at your 2010 non-binding resolution?

    Can’t wait.

13. u235sentinel Says:
    May 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Here is another example of a market in which a lack of competition has caused the people to take steps against one provider

    http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/05/satellite-net-service-sued-for-caps-paltry-bandwidth/

    We’ve seen similar lawsuits against others including Concast and TWR. Rumblings of more lawsuits to come.

    Oh and concast setup limits now instead of telling us “We’re not allowed to tell the customer what the limit is”. TWR’s behavior in which because people didn’t want the caps so they pulled back on DOCSIS 3. Basically taking their ball home with them.

    So what to do. We’re in a situation in which our lame duck government isn’t able to figure out how to enable citizens. No free market and we’re surprised with this crap hitting the news?

    Hughsnet btw is a major player in wireless.

    And we’re surprised the rest of the world is able to build Internet services far cheaper than here. Europe has a model we should consider. Their fiber network is open. The entry level is far lower than in America.

    And yet our government is incapable of moving forward on this issue . . .

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    May 30th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

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